@skilar none of the recent updates have made me look twice. I recently built a small form factor PC with a 12 core Ryzen 9 in it. I suspect this is the type of machine many Mac users would like but Apple seems unwilling to make: Compact, high performance, quiet, upgradable, visually appealing, and not outrageously expensive ā the proverbial xMac. Building this machine was a great reminder that Iād made the right choice. https://arstechnica.com/staff/2005/10/1676/